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Sllawson0
Posts : 107 Join date : 2009-10-22
| Subject: Biotech Lab Report 4 Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:12 am | |
| Should the transformation efficiency of the uncut DNA be larger or smaller than the recombinant DNA? I am confused because we got no white colonies and tons of blue colonies on our ligated DNA plate. We had less colonies on our uncut plate. I am thinking it should have been the other way around if our experiment worked right. | |
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LWhitacre
Posts : 100 Join date : 2009-10-22
| Subject: Re: Biotech Lab Report 4 Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:09 am | |
| truly cant answer that yet. we got 48 blue & 6 white colonies on plate 2, total of 54 CFU and 51 blue & 0 white colonies on plate 4, total of 51 CFU
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LWhitacre
Posts : 100 Join date : 2009-10-22
| Subject: Re: Biotech Lab Report 4 Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:29 am | |
| I think the answer to your question really has to do with the # of bacterial cells plated. Calculation from the concentration used on the plates. Uncut - 0.004 ug would not yield the same amount as 0.042 ug in the Ligation. Those aren't the correct figures. That's concentration & we used 3 ul of each. | |
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Sllawson0
Posts : 107 Join date : 2009-10-22
| Subject: Re: Biotech Lab Report 4 Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:31 am | |
| For the Trans Eff.
Take 0.042 ug/ul DNA X 3 ul = 0.126 ug
You plated 200 ul/1000 ul = 0.2
Multiply .2 X 0.126 = 0.0252 ug
take your cfu/0.0252 ug to get Trans. Eff for the ligation.
The other is the same except the DNA is 0.024 ug/ul X 3 ul = 0.072 ug
Multiply this by .2.
Divided cfu by this number. | |
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Sllawson0
Posts : 107 Join date : 2009-10-22
| Subject: Re: Biotech Lab Report 4 Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:32 am | |
| Looking at your numbers, ours are way different. We had 314 total colonies on the ligation plate (all blue) and only 65 colonies on the other plate (all blue). | |
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LWhitacre
Posts : 100 Join date : 2009-10-22
| Subject: Re: Biotech Lab Report 4 Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:06 am | |
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kyle
Posts : 69 Join date : 2009-10-22
| Subject: Re: Biotech Lab Report 4 Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:10 am | |
| Our ligated DNA transformation eff. was less than the no insert and pBLU.
Are the pBLU and TE considered negative or positive controls? The definitions for them online are confusing as hell. | |
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Sllawson0
Posts : 107 Join date : 2009-10-22
| Subject: Re: Biotech Lab Report 4 Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:20 am | |
| Did you have growth on your no insert LB/Amp plate Kyle? We had none, so had no transformation efficiency for that plate.
The TE is a negative control. The uncut pBlu is a positive control. | |
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kyle
Posts : 69 Join date : 2009-10-22
| Subject: Re: Biotech Lab Report 4 Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:25 am | |
| That's what I figured. And the LB plate is a negative control too?
Our no insert lb/amp plate had blue colonies on it, and we did calculate its trans eff. | |
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kyle
Posts : 69 Join date : 2009-10-22
| Subject: Re: Biotech Lab Report 4 Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:39 am | |
| Wait I think I did my ligation efficiency wrong. I was supposed to add the pBLU and pKAN values right? The 0.0144 and 0.0108? And divide that into my CFU? | |
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kyle
Posts : 69 Join date : 2009-10-22
| Subject: Re: Biotech Lab Report 4 Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:56 am | |
| Wait, why the hell do I have white colonies (one) on my pBLU plate? Isn't that a control without any inserts? DID MY BACTERIA MUTATE OMG | |
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Sllawson0
Posts : 107 Join date : 2009-10-22
| Subject: Re: Biotech Lab Report 4 Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:03 am | |
| See my above calculations that I showed Lisa. That is how I did trans. eff. | |
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Sllawson0
Posts : 107 Join date : 2009-10-22
| Subject: Re: Biotech Lab Report 4 Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:52 am | |
| I just got a reply from Dr. Bradshaw and she said that the uncut pBlu should have had the highest transformation efficiency, so mine data is just horrible. | |
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kyle
Posts : 69 Join date : 2009-10-22
| Subject: Re: Biotech Lab Report 4 Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:53 am | |
| Yeah but for the ligation you need to calculate the concentration for the dna in both pblu and pkan, and add them together for the bottom part of the efficiency fraction, right? And then the No Insert is just the pblu portion? | |
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LWhitacre
Posts : 100 Join date : 2009-10-22
| Subject: Re: Biotech Lab Report 4 Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:17 am | |
| this is what I got
Ligation Number of Colony Forming Units on the whole plate were counted = 54 CFU 1. Known quantity of DNA added = 0.042 ug/µl* x 3 µl = 0.126 µg 2. Fraction of DNA plated = 200 µl/ 1000 µl = 0.2 = 20% 3. Total DNA plated = 0.126 µg x 0.2 = 0.0252 µg 4. Transformation Efficiency = #CFU / µg of DNA added = 54 CFU / 0.0252 µg = 2.14 x 103 CFU/µg DNA No Insert Number of Colony Forming Units on the whole plate were counted = 51 CFU 1. Known quantity of DNA added = 0.024 ug/µl** x 3 µl = 0.072 µg 2. Fraction of DNA plated = 200 µl/ 1000 µl = 0.2 = 20% 3. Total DNA plated = 0.072 µg x 0.2 = 0.0144 µg 4. Transformation Efficiency = #CFU / µg of DNA added = 51 CFU / 0.0144 µg = 3.54 x 103 CFU/µg DNA | |
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